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We speak to Mr. Felix Eimer who says he was recently contacted by the daughter of Vice President Joice Mujuru, Nyasha del Campo, who tried to set up a deal involving illegal gold from the DRC.
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It is the good life for the children of ZANU PF top brass. Nyasha del Campo daughter of Soloman and Joyce Mujuru lives in luxury in Madrid with her husband Pedro (with the glasses). She has allegedly been trying to sell some of the family's ill gotten gains from the DRC. The amounts of money involved range into the tens of millions of US dollars.
The history of the Democratic Republic of Congo has always been one of greed and corruption. In 1998 a 5 year conflict erupted between government forces, backed by Angola, Namibia and Zimbabwe, against rebels backed by Uganda and Rwanda. The fighting was fuelled by the enormous mineral wealth of the DRC and everyone took advantage of the chance to plunder the natural resources, which included gold and diamonds.
The war has been described as Africa’s world war and Robert Mugabe’s support in this conflict saw the beginning of the collapse of Zimbabwe’s economy, when he committed Zimbabwean troops to the conflict. An estimated 5 million people died in the DRC, mainly because of the humanitarian crisis that resulted.
For it’s support, Zimbabwe was given a number of concessions by the DRC government, that allowed it to plunder the vast natural resources of the country, including gold and diamonds. A United Nations report and another report by Global Witness, detailed the criminal activities that resulted. The reports clearly showed that Zimbabwe’s ruling elite and all the senior defence force officials were, and still are, involved in the plunder. In August 2002 United Nations investigations revealed a memorandum from the Defence Minister Sidney Sekeramayi, to Robert Mugabe, proposing that a joint Zimbabwe-DRC company be set up in Mauritius, to disguise the continuing economic interests of the Zimbabwe Defence Forces in the DRC. The UN report showed that an elite network of Congolese and Zimbabwean political, military and commercial interests transferred ownership of at least US$5 billion of assets from the State mining sector to private companies under its control, with no compensation or benefit for the State treasury of the DRC.
Unfortunately this plunder continues and in Hotseat we speak to Mr. Felix Eimar who says he was recently contacted by the daughter of Vice President Joice Mujuru, Nyasha del Campo, who tried to set up a deal involving illegal gold from the DRC. She and her husband Pedro live in Madrid in Spain and have set up two companies, allegedly with the help and financial support of her mother.
The company who were offered this gold is Firstar Europe, a company which trades in raw materials.
I first asked Mr. Eimer to explain what had happened.
FE: I’m working with a company called Firstar. Basically I am involved in the steel trading with Iraq and through my network, and a gold deal was proposed to me that was initiated by Nyasha del Campo and I’ve got several documents about this deal which was gold from the Congo and as I’m not specialist in these kind of commodities I’ve sent the whole document to the company, to Firstar and their due diligence had the result that there’s a high criminal background and this gold is illegal blood gold from Congo.
This is the basic line and when I talked to that fact with Nyasha, she told me that it’s no problem, we can change the origin of the gold to gold from Kenya and this was the point where everyone of us was very concerned.
GJ: Can you just clarify, because from some of the documents that I’ve seen it would appear that Nyasha is living in Spain with her Spanish husband and that they have two companies and they are involved in quite a lot of this. Would that be correct?
FE: Yes, they are doing a lot of commodity tradings, all commodities like diamonds where Africa’s very strong, diamonds, gold, D2 fuel and I’ve not really got the point how these companies interact. The only thing I know is that her mother is financing all these companies and in our case, she wanted to finance the transport to Zurich of the gold which costs about 150 to 200 thousand US dollars.
GJ: What alerted you initially to the fact that this was not a legal deal?
FE: As I told you before, I’m not a specialist in that case and as I had all the documents collected on my table I sent it to Firstar which has a high political background on the board of directors and they have the possibilities to do a really deep due diligence and the result of the due diligence was that all the people involved, all the passports I’ve got for the visas they needed to enter Zurich, to enter Switzerland, the result was that all this background, the gold is blood gold and these people are highly criminal people, even they are known at several organisations, so this has all been the result of Firstar’s due diligence work. This is not the result from my work.
GJ: For people who don’t deal in these areas, can you explain how a deal like this works? Why would people like this have to travel to Zurich, to Switzerland?
FE: This special case, the gold from Africa is brought to Switzerland by aeroplane and then it is brought to the refineries and after the refinery you have the result how much is the value of the gold and then the transaction, the bank transaction, the payment transaction is directly done between the seller and the buyer in Zurich. In this case in Zurich because the refinery is in Zurich. So both parties have to be at this place to organise payment, to organise the completion of the transaction.
GJ: You are talking specifically about gold here, but you mentioned diamonds at the beginning as well. Was there anything more to do with a diamond transaction?
FE: The diamond transaction was done separately. I stopped it from the beginning because I wanted to concentrate on one transaction and as I had this information about this criminal background I stopped the diamond transaction so I don’t have any deeper knowledge about the origin or anything concerning this diamond deal.
GJ: Now some of the documents I’ve seen include photographs of gold nuggets. Are those photographs that Nyasha sent to you?
FE: Yes. Those pictures were sent to us, to me to my table from Nyasha, right.
GJ: So what are we saying, that Nyasha’s actually sitting in her office or at home with tin buckets full of gold nuggets?
FE: No, these nuggets, these gold nuggets are actually located, this is my knowledge, this is what Nyasha told me, are located in Nairobi at the airport ready to transport. But the origin of the gold is from Congo and the gold had to be transported from Nairobi to Zurich and the last issue was that her mother financed or wanted to finance these transports and had already released the funds for that, but the gold is physically in Africa.
GJ: Since this began, have you learnt anymore about Nyasha and how she operates with her family or have you had any dealings with Mrs Mujuru herself or have you only been dealing with Nyasha?
FE: I have been dealing with Nyasha directly and know that her mother is behind all these deals and she is financing all these deals and she is giving the possibilities to her daughter to access to all these deals, to get contact to the people that are high criminal. I mean this is the background and she is trying to help her daughter to start up a business selling commodities from Africa like gold and diamonds to Europe or to investors. At the end of the day, I only know that Firstar’s office had contact with Mrs Mujuru but not me personally.
GJ: Is there any way, in your opinion, that these diamonds and this gold could in any way be legal?
FE: In my opinion, when someone tells you that he can change the origin, the origin of the gold that comes from Congo, the only reason that someone does this is that the gold is from criminal background. This is my personal opinion. Because there is no need to change any origin if the gold is not bloody.
GJ: I do have to ask you of course why would you and your company at this stage be willing to tell the world about what is happening here because it is unusual that anyone is so open about illegal transactions that have been offered to them.
FE: OK so this came from the company directly, from the board of directors, as I told you there are a lot of high level politicians on the board of directors and this is a very straight company, they don’t want to do any illegal deals and with that, they try to get these people out of the market. They do it because they will try to sell it to other companies and in this way they try to circumvent other people to get into this transaction. This is the reason why Firstar management decided to go to the media.
GJ: If these allegations are true this must surely not be the first time that the Mujurus and Nyasha have tried to do this. Could people assume that there are deals going on with other companies at this time and have been going on for sometime?
FE: Yes I know that because the broker market in this special segment is very small and I know that they have tried to sell this gold that we refused because of the criminal background, to other companies, to other buyers and to other investors. That is true, we know that, I know that and this has also been the motivation why Firstar decided to go to the press, to the media. Also due to the fact that actually the situation, the political situation in Zimbabwe is very unstable and yeah, this is more a personal motivation from the management of Firstar to do this.
GJ: This particular transaction that we are talking about, this one gold transaction, is it a large amount of gold, is this a big amount of money?
FE: Yes, this is a big amount of money.
GJ: Can you give me any idea of what sort of amount we’re talking about?
FE: The total transaction is about 35 to 40 million US dollars.
GJ: And that’s just this one transaction and as far as you understand there would have been others?
FE: Yes, it was planned to do it on a monthly basis, so to sell this amount with a value of 35 to 40 million US dollars on a monthly basis, so to make one transaction each month. This was planned from the…….. this was the proposition from Nyasha del Campo’s side.
GJ: Do you have any idea if Nyasha’s husband is involved in this as well, because I see from the documents that he’s set up the companies with her. Is he just being used in this case or is he an active participant as well?
FE: He is active. Nyasha is in Madrid. She is coordinating the whole paperwork and her husband, Pedro del Campo, is in Africa and is organising the whole infrastructure like transport of the gold, making the meetings in Africa, meeting the people that are selling the gold because they are not owner of the gold, they just have access to this gold. And he is the one that is in Africa and that is organising all the infrastructure. So he is active part of the companies.
GJ: Do you feel in any way concerned about your safety with the fact that you are now revealing these details?
FE: Yes, a little bit. I mean, if I would live in South Africa, I would not talk open about that, but as I am living in Germany I am feeling concerned but I’m not feeling, I mean, I think that I am safe here but I guess that these people that are dealing with illegal gold, with weapons and stuff like that this is dangerous and I would not do this interview if I would be in another country……….
GJ: That was Mr. Felix Eimar who was willing to be interviewed about these allegations. We were hoping to speak to another representative of the company Firstar but this interview was declined because of security concerns. The gentleman in question did say that he had had a direct threat from Joice Mujuru herself after they set up a company blacklist that included Nyasha del Campo, her husband Pedro, and Joice Mujuru. He said that Mrs. Mujuru told him that if they were not taken off the black list – he would be ‘visited’ in the next couple of weeks.
We tried phoning Nyasha del Campo, but could not get through, so we emailed her and her husband, to which we received an email response from a Mr. Dancor Spies, of TAU refineries, who claimed that he was the sole principal of the alleged gold transaction and that Nyasha and her husband have no executive authority and so he would respond to questions.
But a representative of Firstar says that Mr. Spies told him that he represented Joice Mujuru herself.
We await further response from Mr. Spies.
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