ဇန္နဝါရီလ ၂၃ ရက္ေန႔ မနက္ ၆ နာရီေလာက္ကစၿပီး နအဖ စစ္တပ္မွ စကခ (၁၂) လက္ေအာက္ခံ တပ္ရင္းေတြျဖစ္တဲ့ ခမရ (၅၄၈)၊ ခမရ (၅၄၉) တပ္ေတြနဲ႔ ဒီေကဘီေအ ကလိုထူးေဘာ ဗ်ဴဟာမွဴး ဗိုလ္မွဴးေက်ာ္သက္ ဦးေဆာင္ေနရာယူ ထားတဲ့ ေခ်ာင့္ခက္အနီး ေဘာသိုပူက်ဳိးနဲ႔ ေခ်ာင့္ခက္ၾကား ေနရာကို ထိုးစစ္ဆင္တိုက္ခိုက္ခဲ့ရာ နအဖ ဘက္မွ စစ္သား ေသဆံုးသူ ဒဏ္ရာရသူ အားလံုးေပါင္း ၂၀ ေယာက္ခန္႔ ရွိၿပီး ျပန္လည္ဆုတ္ခြာသြားခဲ့တယ္။ ညေနပိုင္းအထိကို လက္ နက္ႀကီးေတြနဲ႔ နအဖ ဘက္က ပစ္ခတ္ခဲ့တယ္လို႔ ဒီေကဘီေအ တပ္မဟာ ၅ မွ ဗိုလ္ဆန္းေအာင္ က ေျပာျပပါတယ္။
ဒီတေန႔ထဲမွာပဲ ေဝၚေလ အိုကေရ႕ထ ေနရာမွာ ဒီေကဘီေအဘက္မွာ မိုင္းဆြဲတုိက္ခိုက္ခဲ့လုိ႔ နအဖ သံုးဦး ဒဏ္ရာရရွိခဲ့ပါ တယ္။
ဖလူးဘက္မွာေတာ့ ဒီေကဘီေအ ဗိုလ္ေက်ာ္သက္ ဦးေဆာင္တဲ့ တပ္ဖြဲ႔ေတြက နအဖ စစ္ေၾကာင္းကို ျခံဳခိုတိုက္ခိုက္ခဲ့ရာ နအဖ တပ္သား ၂ ဦး ေသဆံုးခဲ့တယ္လို႔ သိရွိရပါတယ္။
ဒီရက္ပိုင္းထဲမွာ ျမဝတီၿမိဳ႕အနီးပတ္ဝန္းက်င္မွာ နယ္စပ္ျဖတ္ေက်ာ္မႈေတြကို တင္းက်ပ္စြာပိတ္ပင္ထားပါတယ္။ ဇန္နဝါရီ ၂၃ ရက္ေန႔က ဘားအံၿမိဳ႕ကေန ျမဝတီဘက္ကို စစ္သားအျပည့္တင္ထားတဲ့ စစ္ကား ၁၅ စီး ထြက္သြားတယ္လုိ႔ ကိုယ္ တုိင္ေတြ႔ရွိရတဲ့ ဘားအံၿမိဳ႕ခံတဦးက ေျပာျပလုိ႔ သိရွိရပါတယ္။
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We want to hear real news. If this figures and facts are real news, it will be great. the reporter didnt mention nothing about casualties or fatalities from DKBA or KNLA. No one injuries? If there is no one injured or died, that is pretty good. Even there is no casualties, should have mentioned about that.
Pls try to avoid to be like New Light of Myanmar or Myanma Ah Lin. Just mention about how many KNU or KNLA died during the battle and never mentioned about how many burmese soldiers died in the battle or lose battle.
If the things like this, we need to refer to Komoethee blog for Burma army casualties list & Myanma Ah Lin for DKBA casualties list. :D
May be you guys are really winning or you got really a screwed up barometer of success. Despite you are being cornered on the border for decades, you guys still dreaming you are getting the upper hand? Get some reality in place and do something more productive. At least that will better than counting the casualties of the other side.
GNX,
Who is really dreaming? Junta has been dreaming of putting an end to those conflicts for decades. It has tried cease fires, intimidations, burning villages, all-out assults, kidnapping family members of opposition fighters, killing and raping innocent people because they look like the "insurgents".
Oh yeah, they also count and exaggerate the "enemy" casualties in junta's papers. They also use T.Vs, radios, papers to spread propaganda.
After some 60 years of war and death, has junta done anything productive for the country? I am not going to say how the junta and its cronies have profited. It's getting old and everyone knows.
If junta wants real peace, work for real peace. If they want an outlet, say so. If they want a guaranteed safety for whatever they have done to the country, say so. Junta can tell it to their Pa Pa, China. Why can not tell it to Burmese people. Why is it so scared?
Don't be hiding in tunnels and sending other people's children to war. If you want peace, come in peace. Don't bring guns.
Anonymous above, point taken ;)
@Yodah, first of all, I want to make myself clear that I'm not on junta's side. Simply I expect more from Ko Moe Thee, not just blind propaganda. Blame me if you want but what I expect from him is not just advocating the anti-dictatorism and repeatedly recommendation of calling for the coalition government (at least that sounds quite far from reality). I believe he can do better than this after I learned his actions in the past and his book about Law Ka Ni Ti. I'm not trying to pull the stunt of hero here. I'm just trying to suggest what I think he is missing. And simply saying, I still don't believe KNU and DKBA and the rest of the cease fire or non cease fire groups along the border. Do you strongly believe that they are just fighting just to get rid of the junta? Not for the separation of a state or district from the Union? Or do they even have strong objectives? I'm just making above comment neither I approve junta's method nor KNU or DKBA's methods too. The way I see it, it just bigger evil fighting a little smaller evil. Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't it KNU whom tried to overthrown the Union back in 50s. Isn't it DKBA who's taking every single trade advantage over border for years. I'm not calling for what's fair, I'm just pointing out if you are to stick to the little evil because you want to get rid of the bigger evil, the result would be the same even if you succeeded. @Yodah again, I'm sorry my words are scattered all over the place as my thoughts, truly I too want to see Burma change, but not by the guns of anyone. Or you can just judge I got hatred over cease fire groups, but it can't change my views that I don't trust them at all. Looking forward to more detailed and wise comment like the above one you made.
GNX, Well said. Pretty convincing argument that you made not to trade bigger evil for the lesser ones. You also sound quite distrustful of the ethnic groups. I don't blame you. You may have your own experience.
But, I believe what you are saying is what exactly junta wants an ordinary Burmese to believe. Junta stirs up fear of the unknown among ordinary people. It plants the seeds of 'what ifs' and makes people feel like they should settle for the lesser evil junta.
I have read and heard of that kind of propaganda all my life through junta's papers, radios and T.Vs.
The majority of ethnic groups take up arms to protect themselves from gun totting repressive junta and prior regimes. I do not condone violence. Unfortunately, violence is the only language that junta uses and understands.
I only look forward to the day when guns are silenced and Burmese people can live without constant fear.
ဘာေတြလည္းဗ်ာ။နားမလည္ဘူး။
ကိုမိုးသီးဆိုက္ကမ်က္နာျဖဴဧည့္သည္ေတြတယ္မ်ားပါလားဗ်။
@yodah or anonymous again, If they were to plant that kinda fear in burmese people, I've to say they at least succeeded. I was born in 89 and depending on what I've learn according to my reading books and history lessons so far, I am more scared of Burma changing into karen state or separation of shan state than junta ruling over the country. Yet again, I've to admit I've never come in contact with people from border or ethnic people from non junta control provinces but I do have a lot of karen, shan and chin friends who believe liberation from the state not junta is the only way. My friend Chins believe they don't belong to burma, Shans believe they belong to Tai or Thailand, Karen believe they should go according to Saw Ba Oo Gyi's policy. Frankly which state of the US have policy of *State's guns has to be only in State's hand* like karens have. B4 united states get this kind of democracy and unification, aren't they slaughter all indians whom are asking the same thing as what our ethnic people asking? Correct me I am wrong. I don't like Junta but I still thinks sometimes evil is necessary to bring about the change. May be you have different experiences from me from life but I'm sorry our beliefs have to differ in many ways.
@anonymous နားမလည္ရင္လည္း ႀကိဳးစားဖတ္ေပ့ါကြာ....အျဖဴေတြမဟုတ္ဘူး၊
ျမန္မာျပည္သားေတြပဲ...
GNX,
I think I understand now why you have perceptions like that. The attitudes that our brothers and sisters - Chins, Kachins, Karens - have are because of the policies and actions towards them from
the "central government" for generations. If we live in their shoes, we will understand.
The differences do not need to be solved with guns. I also believe that certain things are necessary to bring about change.
The change for me, at the very least, is to not have junta - I say junta not the tamadaw - in power. Junta is the very source of a slew of problems that Burma is having.
It is interesting how you brought up the history of the United States (U.S). Every country has parts of the history that it is not proud of. The goals are different though. U.s did what it did to become the beacon of hope, freedom and democracy. Junta is doing to cover his behind. Junta is doing so that they can escape freely from all the crimes that they committed and take all the money that they have looted from
the rightful owners - Burmese people.
Each state of the U.S has own National Guard which arose out of the militias during the English colonial time for the citizens to defend themselves. Today, National Guard remains a dual Federal-State force. In addition to National Guard, the people of the U.S have constitutional rights to bear arms. Some states have militias formed by ordinary citizens. The Constitution of the U.S is crafted is such as way that power remains in the hands of both Federal and State governments.
You could argue the technical similarities of National Guard and junta's border guards. Again, the goals are different. The rights are different.
I have read about the kind of reasoning that you gave in Junta's papers. May be you should expand your reading collection a little bit. While you are posting in blogs like this, browse around a little and search for facts. Just don't believe what junta wants you to believe.
I hope that your friends are still alive, mine were shot dead on the streets on Rangoon in 88. Yes, they want the change like we do. Yes, they did not have a single weapon. Yes, they could have been doctors and engineers serving the country. But, they died in my hand bloodied.
By the way, that Anonymous was me.
Yodah
GNX,
I don't really think you are who you say you are. But, you are just an impersonation of the profile you project by some pro-junta mouthpiece.
The message you are trying to say is that people of your age do not like junta and yet are satisfied with the status-quo because junta is a better alternative.
You can try to shape the opinions. But, you can not change the reality on the ground. So, you don't like junta? Do something. Otherwise, you are just a little coward who trades your soul and self-esteem for the perceived security.
Live your life as you wish. You have the right.
@Yodah, Yes I agree that I have to read more and I still have to understand more about those things. And yes, all of my friends are alive, because we learned the bitter fact that staying as a sheep is the only way to survive in these times. Call me selfish if you want, but I will not going to surrender myself or my life over junta for which I assumed *not going to happen* revolution and stuffs. Well I realize that becuz of most people like me, the change will never happen. But I've to admit simply that I don't want to be in your blooded shed friend of coming revolutions. I will try to have my own life, then I will try to help the people some other way around because in reality going against junta is too much depressing like shooting the rock with egg. If we are to over come them to help others, we can just wait next decades. Again, I really appreciate those who sacrificed their lives in 88. But its hard to accept that they did it in vain. I'm sorry to disappoint you all with my selfish opinions about life. And I deeply agree that I've to read more. And as I'm here, I came to the doubt that most of the opposition of junta here in foreign country are like doing those for money and sponser. You'd say what about komoethee. Well, I've already mentioned that he's my hero becuz he's not a hypocrite like those old farts who don't give a shit about what happen in the country at all. But like you said, he could have been someone else, doctor or engineer. I just wish I'm braver, but I'm not.@KoMoeThee, I'm sorry if I happened to be a troll. I'm just simply trying to present my thoughts and I expected a lot of negative comments from the older generations.
@Soe Min, I'm sorry If I was rude on above comment. You really got me emotional by calling me Projunta. There's nothing more insulting than calling me Projunta. Come to ur senese, There are over 2 Million burmese who are in foreign country. If they made donation is 1dollar a year, its more than 2 Million a year for opposition. You are blaming me I'm not active or I'm not doing anything because I'm the one who stepped up to reflect my own ideas here? You are no different from Junta then, they too kill this kind of Idea presentation by people, in their own ways. You kinda have me hesitate to make next comments. Bravo. And Oh? what about those 2 million people? Forget it, they don't even try to comment here so they are not to be blamed, right? All the best brother, all the best.
GNX,
I am sorry to hear your views about "staying safe to survive". You have your own reasons and you have every right to live your life the way you see fit.
I do blame myself for not having done more to connect with people like you and offer more help. In a way, I consider myself selfish as well. I have done what I could to help out. But, I had to leave. I did choose my own battles in life.
But, I am still doing what I can. I sincerely believe that we have made tremendous progress since the second flash point (88) to restore the authority of the country to a elected democratic civilian administration. I appreciate your offer to help out in different ways you can. We may have different tactics but our goals are the same. I am sure our paths will cross again.
GNX,
You are absolutely right. I blame myself, you and the 2 million people outside of Burma and 55 million people inside of Burma for not doing enough and sitting on our behinds waiting for some magical thing to happen to kick junta out of the seat. We wait for UN. We wait for U.S. We wait for some ethnic troops. We wait for everyone else to come and rescue us. Pathetic us. It has to stop. So do something. Do more. Alright?
@Soe Min, As my previous post get deleted, I'll have to type it once again. I'm an international student from Burma in US. If you are questioning me about my true identity, would you dare to publicize yours if you have something to lose regarding to Burma, like family, professional life, etc. You complain me I don't do something about it even I don't like it, so let me ask you from here, Did you do something about it? Let me rephrase it, Did you have done anything about it? If so, did you see any significant change relating to your proud action? What you are asking me is simply asking me to surrender my way of life and commit myself wholly to politics which is almost having no progress at all. If you are to accuse me ProJunta, what about 200000 students from my batch, what about 2 million people who are residing in foreign countries, are they projunta too because they didn't do anything about it. If you are calling me coward, yup, I agree I'm a coward, but do you even know the difference between cowards and being wise? If you accused me of cowardice, why wouldn't you go back to YGN or Napyidaw, TAG your NRC card on ur neck, simply ask for what u truly believe without betraying urself. Can you call that action being brave? I find it stupid whomever would do that. If not, don't mix up between what's doing necessary to live on and doing something absolutely stupid and futile. As my above post states, don't try to kill someone on your side because that someone doesn't totally agree with your opinions. If you want that someone truly acting like the way u want, why don't u set urself an example like ko moethee, go get in back into burma, fight them back, I'll gladly join u if you have balls to do that. If not, stop telling me what to do or what is right. The way I see it, I have better judgement than u are to see which is stupid and which is brave. Plus I'm not tryin to change reality on the ground, if u r that reckless to make that kinda assumption(like simply posting comments here would hide the truth or erase the truth), u r not even matched for their projunta propaganda guys, not to mention their best! And let me make this clear enough, I will not sacrifice the life I try to achieve dearly becuz of non progressive political movements or some idiocy taunts made by people like u, I will achieve what I want, and help the ppl with what I can from my reach. Try a little civilized comments next times, will ya? Ur post offended by severely.
@Soe Min, You are right about that one. But I for one who don't believe anyone would help us nor the ethnic troops would bring about change but only bring about the fall of Burma.
And Daw Aung San Su Kyi states that she wished a change by peace, not by force. No matter how much I respect her, I strongly disagree with that fact. What will happen to people with guns and people without guns? Only with the violence, that brings about change. What we shouldn't forget here is we are still in the same side and and on the losing side. Those projunta guys wouldn't even bother to give a peep about what we would think or don't even bother to make propaganda here anymore, becuz they know they are winning, what do they have to care. This comment may b as bitter as it should b becuz rethinking on what happened, there are like 50 million people like me who wouldn't give a damn about politics, but more about theirlives. If only each of us just stand up and make our voices at the same time, there's no stopping us. But after 23 years, longer than my life time, u still hoping for people to do that? Its almost hopeless, and if u stand up, u r dead. BTW we should stop our pity discussion here as it is too carried away. And I suggest everyone of you to watch V for Vendetta. Well played movie about overthrowing a government just by persuading the people but it still needed some voilence though. I wish u and yodah have successful lives no matter what suppression they brought down on us. BTW, please tell those political businessguys in US and EU countries to stop whatever they are doing. They are pathetic. Taking all the aide money, forming pointless cabinet and congress on paper, fighting in conference room like drooling babies. Respect the people who gave their lives inside Burma, u greedy politicians. History will never forgive Junta, along with u greedy chicken cabinets too.
The end? awwwwwwwww.......
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